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Über Aspire

Aspire ist eine umfassende cloudbasierte Software für das Management von Außendienstunternehmen.

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Vorteile:

All encompassing software that limits the amount of work you have to do in other programs. The rapid expansion means there are constant improvements made, and the community is very helpful.

Nachteile:

Can sometimes be a little glitchy and there are sometimes things that are hard to find.

Bewertungen zu Aspire

Durchschnittliche Bewertung

Benutzerfreundlichkeit
4,1
Kundenservice
4,3
Funktionen
4,2
Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis
4,1

Weiterempfehlungsquote

8,6/ 10

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Ryan
Ryan
VP of Sales in USA
Verifizierter Nutzer auf LinkedIn
Umweltdienstleistungen, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: 6-12 Monate
Herkunft der Bewertung

Great software!

5,0 vor 2 Jahren

Kommentare: Overall, the organization is very pleased with all aspects of the Aspire implementation

Vorteile:

User friendly platform, and standardization it creates for our business.

Nachteile:

Mobile functionality, need an app that isn't just through a browser

Antwort von ServiceTitan

vor 2 Jahren

Ryan, thank you for such a positive review. So happy to see that the team is getting value out of Aspire and how better reporting has helped all of you. We are continually looking for ways to improve the mobile app - be sure to keep an eye open for the next release. Again, thank you for the review.

Brent
Director of Technology and Operations in USA
Umweltdienstleistungen, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

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Aspire - Partner to Success

5,0 vor 3 Monaten

Kommentare: We feel that the software and the Aspire staff have been partners in our continued growth and success as a landscape company. We are excited to watch Aspire continue to evolve and add features.

Vorteile:

It helps our company deliver great customer communication, consistently meet our production goals to deliver great customer service, and produce great gross margin results.

Nachteile:

The software's administration is complex, and it takes some time and experience to make it all work smoothly.

Jared
Admin in USA
Bau, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 1 Jahr
Herkunft der Bewertung

Aspire Review- Unsatisfied

1,0 vor 7 Monaten

Kommentare: After over a year of using the software and experiencing the same problems over and over we finally told aspire that we could not use their software anymore as it was causing our operations to have too many problems. Well according to aspire we had a 3 year contract and aspire is now suing our company for the remainder of the contract. I find this quite unethical considering all of the problems we faced and their software purely not working due to their servers being too overloaded. In conclusion, I highly do not recommend aspire. If you are going to use aspire the only way I can see you getting by with it is if you only do maintenance and offer no other services. If you do design build, then I could go on and on as to why aspire is not suited for design build companies.

Vorteile:

Aspire's functionality that was presented from the salesman looked like it could definitely help our company. All of the integration, labor tracking, earned income, inventory tracking, etc. really looked great. Unfortunately once we got into implementation we soon realized there was a bit of a bait and switch going on. When we asked the implementation team how to set up certain features they told us, “well that is complicated and you can worry about that after you get through implementation.” At the time I said okay. Well after we got through implementation we then found out, with no prior knowledge, that further training would cost $750 to buy 4 hours of training. I found $187 per hour for a software tech to teach their own software to be a bit outrageous, especially considering the initial salesman said support was included in the roughly 50k per year price. At this point I was dismayed that even after choosing the most expensive software on the market, our firm would now need to spend another 20-30k a year on further training our employees.

Nachteile:

I found a few major cons of Aspire. First, the purpose of software is to provide ease of use to the user and be somewhat intuitive in its navigation, because at the end of the day Aspire is just an excel program that is developed to look pretty and “try” to be functional. Well Aspire definitely missed the mark on this end. I have used many other softwares that did great on ease of use and accessibility, but the developers of the software definitely did not have the end user in mind. I found navigating and learning aspire to be very cumbersome. There was no intuitiveness about the navigation of the software and I would recommend Aspire go back to the drawing board to fix this issue. The second issue I found with aspire was it seemed that they did not have both the man power and processing power to handle their load. Countless times when my team and I would log in to aspire we would get error messages. When reaching out to aspire about this issue they informed us that their servers are overloaded in the morning due to high activity. Well as you can imagine, not being able to access our CRM during the morning time for a landscape company caused our operations problems... Third and possibly the biggest issue with the software was the support. As I mentioned, Aspire was not intuitive at all and learning how to navigate it was very cumbersome. So when we reached out to support, we would have to submit a ticket and wait a few hours for a tech to get back to us. This process consisted of multiple back and forth emails spanning throughout the day, they would then recommend to schedule a zoom call a few days later. Well for many of our employees this caused much headache, as needing one simple answer took days to resolve and in the meantime our operation is suffering by not having the support we need to operate the very costly software we are paying for. In fact the sole purpose of using the software in the first place is to make our operation run smoother. Our employees who, “asked for support too many times”, were also then directed to paid support I mentioned above, costing $187 per hour. Which I found to be ridiculous especially considering that my interactions with support many times left them stumped, communicating to me that they were not sure how to answer or resolve my question and they would have to get their higher up for help… This resulted in multiple days in delay and in some cases just no answer at all…

Amanda
Vice President in USA
Umweltdienstleistungen, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: 6-12 Monate
Herkunft der Bewertung

Fay-Ark ASPIRE Review 2024

5,0 vor 3 Monaten

Kommentare: FAST! Incredibly enlightening and comforting since we had everything, we knew we needed but nowhere to store and house our data that worked for us. We are growing fast, and we needed a system to help job cost and report data in an outstanding way.

Vorteile:

The software is providing an excellent data platform that enables my company to efficiently view past, current and future job costing.

Nachteile:

Cannot sort payment type or show from deposits menu tab.

Elijah
Owner in USA
Bau, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: 6-12 Monate
Herkunft der Bewertung

AWESOME SOFTWARE!

5,0 vor 3 Monaten

Kommentare: It is pretty expensive and I do not like how inflexible the contracts are. But I do really like the software overall. If you added some of those tweaks I mentioned above it would be ABSOLUTLY AWESOME! Right now its just pretty great and I do think it is better than the competition especially better than Service autopilot which is where we came from.

Vorteile:

It actually works. It loads quickly. There are good workflows that allow for structure.

Nachteile:

I wish you could make more Required fields on opportunities so we don't have opportunities without a source for example. I also really really wish there was a way to have the "metrics" show a graph of say sales per week with data points each week for the last say 6 weeks so that you can see the trends of the business rather than just the hard "last week" data. I also wish then it allowed you to put two trends on top or next to eachother so you could see sales per month this year vs last year. Then if there could be two seperate pages of metrics that would be really cool too so its not just limited to the one screen.

Heidi
Landscape Maintenance Division Manager in USA
Bau, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

Game Changer & Time Saver

4,0 vor 3 Monaten

Kommentare: It has changed our game for the better. No more manual excel spreadsheets for production, no more handwritten tickets! Administrative/data entry time has been drastically reduced for my job role with this program. Seamless integration with our payroll and invoicing processes. Estimating is a breeze once your templates, services, item catalogs and kits are uploaded.

Vorteile:

The schedule board is where its at! The addition of time based scheduling makes it even more amazing.

Nachteile:

It runs slow on various functions randomly.

Kirk
Estimator in USA
Bau, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 1 Jahr
Herkunft der Bewertung

Pro Aspire!

5,0 vor 3 Monaten

Kommentare: As an estimator, I have used a few different programs to help with bidding. Aspire makes thing so much easier and efficient. It also works with PropertyIntel. As an estimator, this feature if extremely time saving and beneficial to my bidding process.

Vorteile:

The efficiency! I am an estimator and it make the process so efficient, saving my a lot of time.

Nachteile:

Nothing really. The learning curve is a trial but it all pays off in the end.

Morgan
Division Manager in USA
Bau, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 1 Jahr
Herkunft der Bewertung

In Betracht gezogene Alternativen:

Great product!

4,0 vor 3 Monaten

Kommentare: It's been great. All the individuals that we have dealt with from implementation to our CSM have been very good at helping us whenever needed.

Vorteile:

Being a "one stop shop" for our business. It can handle your CSM, down to your scheduling.

Nachteile:

I wish the scheduling of recurring services was designed a bit different.

S.
Office Manager in USA
Bau, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 1 Jahr
Herkunft der Bewertung

Love Aspire!

5,0 vor 4 Monaten

Kommentare: My experience with Aspire has been amazing! While we don't have a dedicated CSM, Aspires Customer Care and Knowledge base have been very helpful.

Vorteile:

I like the ability it has to customize just about everything to our needs.

Nachteile:

Noting and pictures. Our jobs can be weeks long and we take tons of pictures throughout the process as well as documenting the process. It would be nice to have a Notes feature on the opportunity level that is accessible to everyone that we can share information and view pictures.

josh
josh
CEO in USA
Verifizierter Nutzer auf LinkedIn
Bau, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: 6-12 Monate
Herkunft der Bewertung

Honesty

5,0 vor 2 Jahren

Kommentare: So far its been good, hoping it gets to great

Vorteile:

The idea board to hopefully dream that it can meet our needs more.

Nachteile:

I am not happy at all that there isn't an onsite implementing Manager/ person. Dedicated to us during that season up to launch.

Antwort von ServiceTitan

vor 2 Jahren

Josh, thank you for the honest feedback and sharing your experience in your first year with Aspire. I'll be sure to pass your comments along to our Customer Success and Onboarding team, to ensure they are aware and help to remedy your challenges. We appreciate your optimism and patience during the first year. Please do contact our team as we are always ready to listen and help where/how we can. Thank you so much.

Clarke
CEO in USA
Bau, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 1 Jahr
Herkunft der Bewertung

Aspire a Solution to Everything

5,0 vor 5 Monaten

Kommentare: We have gradually implemented and learned how to us the system and discover ways that it makes running our business easier.

Vorteile:

Aspire is a robust software system that allows us to manage nearly every part of our business all in one place. Eliminating the need for multiple software systems and simplifying the running of the business.

Nachteile:

There is so much to learn and remember, but that is a good thing too.

Antwort von ServiceTitan

vor 5 Monaten

Dear Clarke, Thank you for your positive feedback! We’re thrilled to hear that Aspire has simplified your business operations by consolidating various functions into one robust system. We understand that there is a lot to learn and remember, but we’re glad to know that the system’s comprehensive features are making a difference in how you manage your business. It’s great to see that you’re gradually discovering new ways to utilize Aspire to streamline your operations. Thank you for choosing Aspire over Crew Control and for your continued trust in us. If you need any assistance or have further suggestions, please feel free to reach out. We’re here to support your success and make your experience even better.

Scott
Estimator in USA
Bau, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

From an Estimator

5,0 vor 9 Monaten

Vorteile:

Comprehensive for through estimating of custom projects

Nachteile:

Not able to copy select portions of a previous opportunity to insert into an unrelated oppotunity

Antwort von ServiceTitan

vor 7 Monaten

Scott, Thank you for sharing your experience with Aspire. We're pleased to hear that you find our platform comprehensive for thorough estimating of custom projects and that our reporting capabilities offer detailed analysis of your operations. We appreciate your feedback regarding the inability to copy select portions of a previous opportunity into an unrelated one. Your input is valuable, and we will consider it as we work to enhance our platform's functionality. We're glad you chose Aspire for its capabilities and layered approach to managing your company. If you have any further suggestions or need assistance, please don't hesitate to reach out to us. We're committed to providing the best possible tools and support for your business.

Jessica
Assistant Office Manager in USA
Verbraucherdienste, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: 6-12 Monate
Herkunft der Bewertung

In Betracht gezogene Alternativen:

Best Choice by Far

4,0 letztes Jahr

Kommentare: It has been a great experience; we have had some hiccups along the way. But after attending Ignite conference it really opened our eyes to how much potential this software has and what it truly is capable of.

Vorteile:

I love that it puts all of our customers into one database and allowed for us to be able to see real time data on performance of jobs. It has been such a great switch for our company and helped our company start to be able to realize things that we need to change in order to be more profitable across the board.

Nachteile:

I would say that the ease of learning how to do things in Aspire there is a little bit of a learning curve. I do know we have a lot of employees that are not necessarily tech savvy, and they have had a hard time catching on how to utilize the software.

Dave
Manager in USA
Hausmeisterservice, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: 6-12 Monate
Herkunft der Bewertung

Ignite User Conference

4,0 letztes Jahr

Kommentare: Overall, we were very pleased with the conference, great job by everyone who put in the monumental effort to pull it off! We'll be attending the next one.

Vorteile:

Interaction with other Aspire Users and the variety of breakout sessions and workshops. We're a new user and still learning a lot about the product, but very pleased with what we learned about where the product is going and different ways we our company ca benefit from it.

Nachteile:

I would point out three negative comments about the conference, to try and improve it for next time: Power point has it's purpose, but there was not enough hands-on/live demo of the product in the breakout sessions. We would suggest that at the next conference, there are areas set up, similar to the sponsor booths, where we can interact in person at our leisure with Aspire personnel. It's not practical to try and squeeze in line with other attendees for five or ten minutes at the end of a break-out sessions and overload the presenters (who were always available and gracious with their time) discussing our individual company applications or questions. We were most disappointed by the lack of ability to spend some quality live/in person time with Aspire personnel (while looking at a live system if necessary) and get away from email and zoom calls. In addition to meeting other users, this was the main reason we attended the conference, and feel we missed out on that personal interaction entirely. Having vendors/sponsors presenting in the general sessions was a turn off, because their products do not have relevance to all attendees. It would be preferrable to leave them to their booths and individual break out sessions.

Antwort von ServiceTitan

letztes Jahr

Dave - Thank you for taking the time provide such details about your experience. We love hearing about your time at Ignite, as well as with the Aspire platform. This was our 5th Ignite conference and it continues to get bigger. We did offer a range of activities and areas where customers could interact with our team members, from the Product Hub area and AspireCare desk area. We are in the early stages of planning our '24 Ignite conference, so we will work to incorporate more opportunities! Thank you for the info on Boss and LMN!

Tina
admin manager in USA
Bau, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

In Betracht gezogene Alternativen:

Aspire Pros & Cons

5,0 letztes Jahr

Kommentare: overall, I would give Aspire a 90 out of a 100. If you asked me this question 18 months ago I probably say 60 out of a 100. But watching the videos and contacting support has been a great help. Your Customer Support team gets a 100. They always get back and help right away.

Vorteile:

estimating is streamline now for us Job costing is awesome since using Aspire our profit margin has gone up which is great

Nachteile:

I do not like that you can not edit the lines on the invoices. We have a few clients that I have excel sheets setup for invoicing because I can't edit the line on invoices for a maintenance contract. I

Michele
VP Finance in USA
Bau, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: 6-12 Monate
Herkunft der Bewertung

In Betracht gezogene Alternativen:

Commit, Persist and Realize the Benefits of Aspire

5,0 letztes Jahr

Kommentare: The customer service and assistance that you receive from the team at Aspire is the best feature of the software. We receive responses immediately to questions, layouts, and general assistance. Aspire also offers additional live training classes with Q&A sessions weekly that you can attend, making this software worth the investment.

Vorteile:

After using the software for approximately 6 months, our entire team began to see all the time-saving benefits of using Aspire as well as the benefits of "real-time" accounting and job profits.

Nachteile:

For us, the transition to Aspire was difficult because we switched from Sage to QB and changed our payroll carrier at the same time we moved to Aspire. This was a mistake on our part because there was too much to implement in a short period of time. The training period for Aspire is set, and there is little room for accommodations for extending the time period if needed. Once you commit to using Aspire, you need to be aware that you have to make learning the system a priority within the timetable that is set.

Todd
Manager in USA
Hausmeisterservice, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

Aspire Review

5,0 letztes Jahr

Kommentare: We enjoy using Aspire and have recommended it to others. The company listens to users and makes updates based on the users recommendations.

Vorteile:

Integration of the primary production functions of our landscape company. Ease of use compared to other software. Continued improvements that Aspire is committed to.

Nachteile:

It is costly and there are some limitations

Antwort von ServiceTitan

letztes Jahr

Todd - Great to hear about your experience with Aspire and how you consistently recommend it to others. We love hearing about support like that. We are always here to listen to feedback and help unlock your success! Thank you for the great support.

Cindy
Branch Admin and AP Manager in USA
Bau, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

Continues to innovate and improve

5,0 vor 6 Monaten

Kommentare: I have enjoyed using Aspire. Yes, it has been frustrating at times, but the AspireCare team is great at handling issues in a timely manner.

Vorteile:

There are several aspects of Aspire which I enjoy using. I particularly like the functionality and flexibility of the reporting module. There are "canned" reports, but from there, you can also create your own and modify the report to fit your own needs. I have enjoyed working with the Customer Portal and being able to present this to our clients. I appreciate how Aspire is continuing to innovate and improve their product.

Nachteile:

I would like to see an app designed for the admin user. There are times when I don't have access to a tablet or desktop computer and need to look something up in Aspire, create a PO, etc. In the knowledge base, I would appreciate more downloadable materials (PDF) rather than so many videos. I often am unable to set aside time to watch a video, so having something I can pull up and read would be more beneficial.

Antwort von ServiceTitan

vor 5 Monaten

Thank you for your thoughtful review, Cindy! We’re thrilled to hear that you’ve found value in Aspire’s reporting module and customer portal. It’s wonderful to know that our ongoing innovation and improvements are positively impacting your experience. We appreciate your feedback about the need for an admin app and more downloadable materials in the knowledge base. Your suggestions are valuable, and we will consider them as we continue to enhance our offerings to better meet your needs. We’re also glad that you trust us with your partnership and that our AspireCare team has been able to assist you effectively despite any frustrations. If you have any more suggestions or need further support, please don’t hesitate to reach out. Thank you for being a valued part of the Aspire community!

Lacey
Controller in USA
Bau, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

Aspire Provides Great Data

5,0 vor 2 Monaten

Kommentare: We've been with Aspire for 5 years and it has helped us in many ways. We can look at data all in one spot and not have multiple spreadsheets to track hours, materials, purchase orders, equipment service logs, etc.

Vorteile:

I love the data that I can pull from it. It helps us make informed decisions.

Nachteile:

It's difficult to make changes to our layouts. When we need to make a change to the look of our invoices, contracts, purchase orders, etc, we wish it could be a much smoother process.

Joe
Owner in USA
Hausmeisterservice, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

Great product and better service

5,0 letztes Jahr

Kommentare: Aspire is invaluable to my business. I can't imagine how difficult it would be run the business without this tool. The transparency, reporting, data management and customer support make this as important a piece of my company as any one of my employees.

Vorteile:

Aspire understands my business and has developed a tool specifically for me. Their commitment to constant improvement and customer support are second to none.

Nachteile:

Snow removal is something only some companies in my industry do based on geography. Aspire's snow management tools aren't the best out there but they are getting better.

Melissa
General Manager in USA
Bau, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

Aspire Review

5,0 vor 11 Monaten

Vorteile:

It is user friendly between our Ops and Sales department. We have been deep diving into other areas as well like inventory and site audits and Aspire has a lot to offer.

Nachteile:

The site audits when being used on the phone are not user friendly.

Antwort von ServiceTitan

vor 9 Monaten

Hello Melissa, Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback on Aspire! We're thrilled to hear that our platform has been beneficial for streamlining operations and enhancing collaboration between your Ops and Sales departments. We're continuously working to improve all aspects of our platform, including site audits on mobile devices, to ensure a seamless user experience across all devices. We appreciate your CFO's thorough evaluation and decision to choose Aspire as the best fit for your needs. If you have any further suggestions or feedback, please don't hesitate to reach out to our support team. We're committed to providing you with the best possible solution for your business.

Rollin
President in USA
Bau, 11–50 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

Aspire just works

5,0 letztes Jahr

Kommentare: We used CLIP for 15 years, LMN for 5 years and now Aspire. Aspire costs more but you also get a lot more.

Vorteile:

Accuracy of estimating. Speed with which estimates can be generated using templates, the equipment module syncing with gps and alerting for all of the maintenance. I also wish you could generate an efficiency score for each employee rather than only for the crew leader.

Nachteile:

Not being able so see notes on the equipment serviced report. You can see the notes on the equipment needing serviced report but for some reason not on the report of the equipment that has been serviced.

Antwort von ServiceTitan

vor 12 Monaten

Thank you for your kind words! We are glad to hear that our platform helps you complete accurate, timely estimates. We will continue to improve our reporting capabilities to suit your specific needs. Thank you!

Felecia
Director of Process Improvement and Marketing in USA
Landwirtschaft, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

Aspire Review

5,0 vor 10 Monaten

Vorteile:

Aspire is an all-in-one system for landscaping companies.

Nachteile:

When you need important enhancements to the system, it takes a while for development to correct/fix little and big updates.

Antwort von ServiceTitan

vor 9 Monaten

Felecia, Thank you for sharing your feedback on Aspire. We're glad to hear that you find our platform to be a comprehensive solution for landscaping companies. We understand the importance of timely updates and enhancements, and we apologize for any inconvenience you've experienced in this regard. We're continuously working to improve our development process to ensure that updates are delivered promptly and efficiently. Your input is invaluable to us, and we'll use it to further enhance our service. If you have any specific suggestions or concerns, please feel free to reach out to our support team. We appreciate your support and are committed to providing you with the best possible experience with Aspire.

Michael
Branch Manager in USA
Architektur & Planung, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 2 Jahre
Herkunft der Bewertung

Shorb Landscaping Review

5,0 letztes Jahr

Kommentare: Overall its very good and would recommend to anyone. Our CSM is great and has been a guiding light for the last year or so. [sensitive content hidden] has been great for us and has really kept us in and not completely losing our faith in aspire. We see light at the end of the tunnel with the transition to earn rev and everything else is good. In the end you get out of the system what you put in, so we have a lot of ownership.

Vorteile:

I like that it has a very robust base to what you can do and how you can do it. I think aspire has done it's best to create a system that can be be used by many companies. WE are all in landscaping but we realy run things differently and want a system that allows us to do it "our way"

Nachteile:

-The issue base system is gutting better, but at one time that was a con for me. -The speed in that knew issues are resoled.- we recently moved from inv to earn rev. That was a big problem for us and i dont believe that aspire had a good way or a thought out process to get us trained and move us to earn rev.-Need a more CRM sales base function to aspire. I know its coming but not fast enough. -

Rachel
Branch Administrator in USA
Umweltdienstleistungen, 51–200 Mitarbeiter
Verwendete die Software für: Mehr als 1 Jahr
Herkunft der Bewertung

Aspire is AWESOME!

5,0 vor 3 Monaten

Kommentare: I love Aspire. I have used many programs when it comes to landscape world and Aspire is by far the best I have used.

Vorteile:

It is very user friendly and easy to learn.

Nachteile:

It does have a lot of system outages, they have been getting better though.